~ June 2004 ~

Dear Friend,

Every Meeting House Library should have one! 

            Since the last Newsletter the new edition of “Do We Survive Death?” by David Hodges has been published with the help of the Pelegrin Trust. This book is a descriptive bibliography and discussion on the evidence supporting survival which David has compiled and written. David is one of the founder members of QFAS and he has written this book to fill a need for a “review of the evidence in a form which is accessible to all levels of readership.” I asked David for an update and he e mailed :- 

 “ ‘Do We Survive Death?’  has been selling quite well over the four months that it has been available.  Perhaps more slowly than I would have wished but apparently not badly for a book which is being privately published and distributed.  Of the original print run of 500 copies, 138 have been sent out but not all of these have been actual sales.  As well as a few complimentary copies, there have been a number of review copies and also books sent to outlets/bookshops for future sales.   
The challenge in an enterprise like this is getting publicity out to those who may be interested in buying and, without the sort of publicity budgets which professional publishers can command, it is not an easy task.  I hope that some of the review copies will eventually provide some positive publicity but of course book reviews can be either positive or negative.  One disappointment has been the failure of two important websites to bring in any orders.  However, the book is now available through both the Quaker Bookshop and Psychic News Bookshop so that is a good start.  This sort of enterprise requires both patience and perseverance!”
 

            David is not in the best of health and has already put tremendous effort into getting the book written. The first edition was published by Martin Howard and many of you will have copies. The new edition is larger and looks splendid and I hope we can all help David as much as possible with its distribution. Why not donate a copy to your Meeting House Library?  

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The next QFAS event is the Claridge House Weekend Conference on Reincarnation from

22-24th October, cost £130, deposit £50.

(Remember that bursary help is available)

Contact: The Warden, Claridge House, Dormans Road, Lingfield,

Surrey, RH7 6QH. Phone 01342 832150.

Speakers include Jim Pym and Nwang  Sangye (a Tibetan-Buddhist monk)

Book soon as space limited. If you feel able to share a room this enables more to attend. 

The Annual General Meeting of QFAS will take place on the Sunday afternoon at 2 pm at Claridge House.

Please come if you can. 

 

 

Dear Friend,

Every Meeting House Library should have one! 

            Since the last Newsletter the new edition of “Do We Survive Death?” by David Hodges has been published with the help of the Pelegrin Trust. This book is a descriptive bibliography and discussion on the evidence supporting survival which David has compiled and written. David is one of the founder members of QFAS and he has written this book to fill a need for a “review of the evidence in a form which is accessible to all levels of readership.” I asked David for an update and he e mailed :- 

 “ ‘Do We Survive Death?’  has been selling quite well over the four months that it has been available.  Perhaps more slowly than I would have wished but apparently not badly for a book which is being privately published and distributed.  Of the original print run of 500 copies, 138 have been sent out but not all of these have been actual sales.  As well as a few complementary copies, there have been a number of review copies and also books sent to outlets/bookshops for future sales.   
The challenge in an enterprise like this is getting publicity out to those who may be interested in buying and, without the sort of publicity budgets which professional publishers can command, it is not an easy task.  I hope that some of the review copies will eventually provide some positive publicity but of course book reviews can be either positive or negative.  One disappointment has been the failure of two important websites to bring in any orders.  However, the book is now available through both the Quaker Bookshop and Psychic News Bookshop so that is a good start.  This sort of enterprise requires both patience and perserverence!”
 

            David is not in the best of health and has already put tremendous effort into getting the book written. The first edition was published by Martin Howard and many of you will have copies. The new edition is larger and looks splendid and I hope we can all help David as much as possible with its distribution. Why not donate a copy to your Meeting House Library?

 

 

Impressions of the conference “Quakers and Spiritual/Psychic Experience” held at the Quaker International Centre on April 24th, by Ann M. Wilson, who was attending a QFAS event for the first time.  

      I was one of twenty-three people including three facilitators who attended the QFAS day conference. QFAS has been in existence for four years but I only discovered it recently when I read about the previous conference in the Friend and sent for more information.  I found the literature which I received very interesting and felt it was summed up by the quotation  "We are not so much human beings on a spiritual journey, as spiritual beings on a human journey"  which spoke to my condition.  I decided to attend the conference in order to move forward in my understanding and to meet other people with similar interests. 

     It was an unexpectedly hot day and we met in a very pleasant room in the Quaker International Centre where we all sat round in a large circle.  We began with a short Meeting for Worship.  Angela Howard then welcomed us and gave an introduction to the day.  Angela had asked people to send a few details about themselves and their hopes for the day and she shared some of the responses with us.  There was also a list on the back of the programme of the types of spiritual/psychic experiences which people had described.  It was not compulsory to have had such experiences to attend the conference - it was also for those who are interested in such experiences.  We were told that there are three ways in which mediums receive information - clairvoyance (seeing), clairaudience (hearing) and clairsentience (feeling aware).  For those of us who do not experience any of these a new word was coined - clairvacant!  We then went round the circle and each introduced ourselves and said where we came from and why we had come to the conference. 

      The next item was a very interesting and well researched talk by David Britton on "George Fox's attitude to the Afterlife" which included many quotations from George Fox and other early Friends. 

     As we were going to meet in small discussion groups after lunch it was suggested that we should have lunch with those who had been allocated to the same group as us, and this we did.  When we returned upstairs we went into our small groups and it was suggested that we began the discussion by talking about some of the experiences which people had had which were listed on the back of the programme.  The group I was in therefore began by talking about apports, as not everyone knew what they were (they are material objects which are transported or caused to appear, for instance at a seance).  We then moved on to many other interesting topics including the nature of evil, Buddhist beliefs, Spiritualism, and Reincarnation.  After an hour we again met in a large group for feedback from the smaller groups and more discussion. 

      Later we watched some videos of Colin Fry, who is a medium who regularly appears on television.  This part of the programme was facilitated by Ros Smith who is herself a developing clairvoyant medium, and I found it fascinating to hear her description of what it is like to receive messages.  She said that she could never be a stage medium, but wants to use her gift to help others.  We had a question and answer session with Ros about the videos we had just seen and her experiences. 

     Then it was all over and time to return home at the end of a really interesting and varied day.  Having recently become a facilitator myself I must say that I was very impressed with the quality of the facilitation.  I am now looking forward to attending the next QFAS conference on "Re-incarnation" at Claridge House from October 22nd to 24th 2004.   

Ann M Wilson, 12 The Fellway, West Denton, Newcastle-upon-Tyne, NE5 5BY.  

  

George Fox and the Next Worldtalk given to the conference by David Britton 

Without my reading the lengthy ‘Doctrinals’ of Fox, but relying on the various ‘Narrative Papers of Fox’, edited by Henry Cadbury, ‘The Book of Miracles’, and other materials of that kind, together with a few crucial passages from the Journal, I find the evidence is that Fox simply took the next world for granted. It was not an issue on which he dissented from the other Christian Churches, except in the manner of its operation, through the terrible principle of predestination, which he rejected. 

    At the other end of the spectrum, where the radical spirituality of the Ranters wanted to overthrow all notion of an after-life, and to celebrate only its own rather manic here-and-now spirituality, Fox, like Margaret Fell, and Barclay, and Nayler, and several other early ‘weighty Quakers’, was very firm, and indeed very sharp in condemnation. I have read everything I could lay hands on written by early Quakers on the Ranters, and I can assure you that they speak with one voice. 

    Here, from ‘The Narrative Papers’, and quoted by Cecil Sharman in his excellent book ‘George Fox and the Quakers’, is the story of Margaret Rous and her child. – ‘Hearing that Margaret Rous’ child was sick I went to see it, and as I stood by it considering its condition, I felt the Lord’s power go through it, and the word was, the Lord’s power was come to raise it up or fetch it away, and so I came away fresh in the Lord’s power and satisfied in myself. And the next day her mother came to the town and desired me to go with her to see it, and through her tenderness I went, though I was satisfied in myself. And so I saw the child was full of the power of the Lord, and it rested upon it and rested in it. And at night it died, and afterwards the spirit of the child appeared to me, and there was a mighty substance of glorious life in that child, and I bid her mother be content, for it was well.’  Now what could be a clearer statement than that?  

    George Fox’s mother died in 1674, when Fox was in Worcester gaol, and was prevented from visiting her. When the letter about her death reached him, he was grieved, but –‘ When my spirit had gotten through I saw her in the resurrection and the life, everlastingly with me, and father in the flesh also’ (Book of Miracles) Again , could anything be clearer or more whole-hearted? 

    Here is Fox’s Epistle concerning Josiah Cole. ‘….and Friends sate about him, and healed him, and I went to him, and healed him, and he was full of the power of the Lord, and his seed and Life, that was over all; and so in that he departed away in the arms of Friends, as he sate on the side of his bed, and had a very easy passage through the Life in which he remaines 

    Here is part of Fox’s Testimony to George Watt . ‘And, as Christ saith, He that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live   …in this belief, and in this Life, is our dear brother George Watt; I do see him and feel him’ 

And here is another Testimony, this time to Edward Burroughs. ‘ Dear Edward Burroughs fell asleep on the 14th day of the 12th month 1662, who is with the Lord forever. And that which I eternally loved in him never dies, but lives forever, and so cannot be separated from him.’ 

And here, as an example of his healing ministry, is his letter in 1658 to Lady Claypole, suffering mental distress –‘For looking down at sin and corruption and distraction, you are swallowed up in it; but looking at the Light that discovers them, you will see over them. That will give victory, and you will find grace and strength, and there is the first step of peace, that will bring salvation, and see to the beginning and the glory that was with the Father before the world began, and so come to know the seed of God which is heir of the promise of God, and the world which hath no end unto the power of an endless life, which power of God is immortal, which brings up the Soul which is immortal, up to the immortal God, in whom it doth rejoice’ 

That, making all due allowance for Fox’s puzzling (yet powerful) cumulative style of writing, is also a clear statement of the immortality of the Soul at the highest level, in God himself. 

A tribute at a similar high level is given in Fox’s Testimony to the truly great Isaac Penington, in 1679. ‘And he did freely minister of his living bread and water, which he had received from above, from the living God and his Son, to the comfort of them that feared the Lord, and kept their habitation in the Truth, in meekness and humility. And I do know that he is well in the Lord, and in Peace with him through the Lord Jesus Christ’.

Some Quakers have said to me that an eventual resurrection in the body is the true voice of Christianity, not the life of the Soul immediately after death, in a Soul-world. To present such a stark opposition of ideas is unnecessary, and even false. Both ideas might be true. Or another alternative, seemingly favoured by Fox, and by some of today’s psychical researchers, is that a form of bodily existence is the immediate reality of the next world, together with the Soul. Whichever principle we adopt as our belief, the crucial point encompassed by all these positions, is that our physical death is not the end of our story, and to this principle Fox and the early Quakers remained faithful.  

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 There follow extracts from the letters sent by Friends before the Conference in answer to the questions “Have you had any spiritual/psychic experiences?” and “What are your hopes for the conference?” 

            “I did one year of a two year course on Interfaith and there said once I wished to know how to communicate with Angels. From that time I have felt loved and protected (not being without that previously, but maybe more aware) in a way that has led me to pray in a way I had not done previously.

            “So many experiences of being helped and enlightened – perhaps a “leading”; a thought directing me to some action or understanding. One can be a sceptic about such things – we have a choice. I choose to believe in the heavenly hosts, and therein one opens up to experience.” 

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            “Hopes? That the Religious Society of Friends as a whole will take on board that Quakers began life as a mystical group, and that the very essence of the Religious Society lies in the possibility of the experience of the Divine – that without this recognition, we may not call ourselves a Religious (or Spiritual) Society. Hopes specific to the day. To make the acquaintance of Quakers who also have had their lives changed by Experience – to begin to steer other Quakers towards a greater awareness/value of the Guiding Light.”

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“…I feel that all psychic experience should give some insight into the Quaker testimonies and daily life.”

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Here are some comments from the evaluation forms:- 

 “...I have found it a very beneficial day. I thought that I would have to go outside Quakerism to find this sort of information, and am really pleased to have found QFAS and met all the other people who came.”

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“I enjoyed making the acquaintance of like-minded people. I have been inspired to read some of Fox’s spiritual experiences. I look forward to reading articles written by members of the group.” 

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“Thank you for another very interesting and enjoyable conference. I appreciated the different balance of the day and the greater opportunity we were given to hear of individual experiences. The talk on George Fox’s views made an excellent beginning and the videos an interesting end.” 

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-  and a letter written to “The Friend” by Anne Smith which was not printed:-

 

“Continuing Life”

“Everyone has to find their own truth, as Quakers may say, offering no dogmas, or strict creeds, but encouraging Friends to be open to new light, from whatever source it may come. Speaking personally from older age I found the Meeting of Quakers studying the afterlife helped towards healing my own pain of bereavement, and am sure such studies would help others.

 “We met on Saturday, April 24th, in the Quaker International Centre. Sitting in a wide circle we began with silent worship, and then introduced ourselves with our differing quests and experiences. One Friend described her work as a prison visitor for six years in Wormwood Scrubs, finding God – good – in the prisoners there. I believe this illustrated the fact that one can combine good works and the study of the continuing life to the enrichment of both.* It was a rewarding and heart-warming day.”

 *This sentence may need a little explanation. It is a response to the Friends (and they are many!) who say that we should concentrate on improving conditions on Earth rather than spending time thinking about a possible afterlife! 

 This concludes the report on the conference but you may like to have details of the videos, portions of which were shown. My copies are constantly on loan and are greatly appreciated by those who see them, particularly the first one which shows Colin Fry’s mediumship. The second, which is one of a series of 3, show Colin Fry channelling “Magnus”.

  “6ixth Sense with Colin Fry” from the Living TV programmes. Can be ordered via video shops. Also available in DVD.

 “Nearer the Light” Volume 3 of the Magnus Guides through Colin Fry series. Video filmed and produced by Michael Courtney-Hunt, “Silver Birch Cottage”, 3 Soke Road, Newborough, Cambridgeshire, PE6 7QT. Tel. 01733 810089. www.spiritsinc.co.uk www.spiritualism.me.uk

 

The Psychic/Spiritual Experience of Pre-cognition

 

            At the day conference on 24th April at Quaker International Centre, we had an opportunity in small groups to talk about our spiritual experiences. Not just those ones, like discernment or “being moved to minister”, which are acceptable in the wider Quaker community, but those often labelled “psychic”. These latter, often sadly, appear to be a taboo subject in most Meetings.

            In the past (thanks to the support of the Quaker Fellowship for Afterlife Studies) I have been able to write about the life-changing experience of my near death experience (see “The Not Unfamiliar Country”) feeling that this contained an important message I should share. However, I have held back from confiding my pre-cognition experiences, judging them to be too weird. The supportive atmosphere of our day conference gave me the courage to disclose this “way-out-ness”.

            As a Quaker with an experiential faith (i.e. non-credal and dogma-less) I am now able to accept any experience as having been “sent” for a reason or purpose – to teach me some truth. However, my psychic gifts, until more recently, have not been able to be integrated and used like this. I have not been able to see what they were for – why I have been given them – how I am meant to use them. I therefore felt I had to keep them secret in case others saw me as “mad” or perhaps start to treat me warily and less equitably.

            I call them prophecy dreams – very vivid nightmares which foretell a disaster or some terrible event about to happen to an individual or group in some recognisable place. I also sometimes experience a day-time hallucination – a visual flash-forward (as opposed to flash-backs). These occur out-of-the-blue and not in relationship to being stressed or physically ill.

            As a child, adolescent and young adult, I assumed I was witnessing something inevitable which would happen in the future. I would feel despairing about being unable to prevent it – very disturbed and then guilty when it actually took place as fore-seen.

            Then gradually I started to become aware of my healing gifts and how the Holy Spirit can use these and us as a channel for creative power. I began to use distant healing, telepathy and intuition to try and prevent the tragedy happening. Sometimes these seemed to “work” especially when applied to individual cases.

            In the last few years, I have been able to go a step further. I began to realize that these prophecy dreams were giving me a great deal of detail. Details which perhaps a bomb squad or the police could use to actually prevent the disaster. This has now apparently “worked” in three or four events to stop them happening.

            I have now therefore developed a procedure for dealing with these frightening dreams, and/or flash-forwards experiences which is firmly grounded in my Quaker experiential faith. Firstly, I ask the Holy Spirit for guidance and receive, through meditation and discernment, some possible solutions. Secondly, I try out these solutions once I feel clear and a sense of “rightness” about the decision. Having carried out the solution (e.g. giving  the police the details) I continue with distant healing of the situation. However, the burden of responsibility has usually become less so I can “move on” and go about my life feeling healthily integrated and “ordinary”. I think it is important to not to feel weird or special. I then thank God for sending me the opportunity; and hand over to the Holy Spirit to go on seeing it through.

            So I also thank God for QFAS and its founding members who have been given the wisdom to see that Quakers and others need this outlet for using their psychic gifts more openly.

 Elizabeth M. Angas, Gaea, 2 Woodville Street, Woolwich, SE18 5JG.

 

From Joan Benner 

I found the following in "Strength from Weakness:  writings by eighteenth century Quaker women"  edited by Gil Skidmore.  (I'm reviewing it for The Friend). The writer is Mary Alexander, and she's referring to an episode in 1797.

 "One night when I was ill at Cirencester, I dreamed that I had departed this life and was admitted into happiness;  but I met with  only one whom I knew or had ever known in the body, and she, I was told, was just admitted, and was to continue there, for she had finished her day's work;  but as I had not, I must return to the body, and if faithful to what was manifested from time to time, I should be admitted again when the work appointed me to do was fully accomplished.  My mind being awfully impressed with what had occurred in my sleep, in the course of the next day I told it to Sarah Bowley.  Very soon after, we heard that the friend whom I had seen was very dangerously ill; and, before I got home, I was informed of her decease; and I have no reason to doubt but she is admitted into everlasting rest and peace."

I find this particularly interesting, because a friend of mine had a very similar experience at the time of her sister's death

Report from Membership Secretary/Treasurer

 

    Our membership stands now at 65, and our account at just under £2,000. There are still some 35 members from last year who have not yet paid this year’s subscription. We hope to receive your subs in due course, but this is the last Newsletter to those who do not re-join.

     We would like to encourage members to speak to their own Meetings about our topic, using our leaflet as far as possible as a guide. We need to speak from within the Quaker tradition, whatever other material we want to present. Perhaps members could support each other by going in pairs, or a small group, when doing such presentations. Find out from our public mailing list who lives in your own area. And do send us reports of your efforts in this direction.

     I would like to say a very special thank you to Angela for carrying the main burden of QFAS work during very difficult times for her, during Martin’s illness, and since his death at Christmas.

We offer our condolences and support. Without her work the Newsletters would not have appeared – and I know that the last one was a terrific slog to produce and send out – nor would the London Conferences have happened. We also ask for your patient support while we continue to keep QFAS up and running, if not for the time being on strictly correct formal Quaker lines. We will get back to the strict rules when we are ‘good and ready’.

      . Those of us who knew Martin will miss him. I knew him for only a year and a bit, but I enjoyed his enthusiasm, and also the remarkable flexibility of his mind in personal discussion. We were able to agree about much, and to disagree, or to seek new platforms for an agreement, without rancour or dogmatism. Perhaps I can say this because I recognise that we had similar mind-sets, and were able to get to the point with tremendous speed. I regret the loss of a potential friend, and though Martin is no doubt better placed where he is now, he had certainly not finished with earth-work, I would say.


                                                                                                                                           David Britton

     Since the last Newsletter went out Martin has passed on. He died at home on Sunday, 21st December, in the early morning. We were alone and I was leading him in a meditation on going to the light. It is said that when the personality and the higher self are in accord about the timing, death can come quickly. The end was certainly, and mercifully, quick for Martin although it was fourteen months since he had been diagnosed with cancer.

            I have already written at length about his illness and how he faced it and the way it affected him and other people. My purpose here is to tell you briefly what has happened since because it relates so closely to the subject we are studying and I think you will be interested.

            Martin visited Paul Lambillion, a gifted and experienced spiritual teacher, healer and medium, on two occasions, the second being only three days before he died. A month after his death, I visited Paul and Martin “popped through” as Paul put it. Paul, I must tell you, has a delightful, light hearted personality and he and Martin had joked when they met in life. This encounter was similar. It was far from being a traditional “reading” as I was able to put questions to Martin. Among much else he described what I had been doing the previous evening, the cover of the book on the kitchen table and a waterproof watch of his which I had been looking at. He cracked a joke about his hearing (he had worn hearing aids) which was silly and special to us. He also talked about there being a “beer” at the funeral. At the time I was slightly put out by what seemed a rather frivolous remark, but it was later pointed out to me that there was indeed a Victorian bier on which we had wheeled his woven willow coffin to the grave in the woodland burial site. (Sorry, Martin!)

            On my second visit to Paul on April 8th, Martin talked about giving me ideas to help me with my writing and much else.

            Then on May 24th I visited Brenda Hanley, a Brentwood medium, who knew nothing about me or the fact that I had “lost” my husband. Martin quickly came through giving her a sensation of buzzing in the ears (he had suffered tinnitus as well as deafness). The things he said were similar to the things he had said through Paul, but Brenda’s quieter, gentler nature seemed to enable him to add much which was loving and intimate and this was very important to me. Brenda said she experienced him as a good communicator and a strong personality. My sister (who died in 1978) also communicated and a mystery about her personality and behaviour in life was partially explained. My parents were also mentioned as being a united and loving presence in the background. Paul had experienced Martin and my father as being together and had also described Martin’s mother and grandmother.

            There is nothing unusual in any of this, of course, but when it is a personal experience it is wonderful and incredibly helpful and healing. I have been very fortunate in hearing from Martin so quickly after his passing.

 If you would like to read more, I have typed a transcript of the first session and hope in time to summarise the second and third tapes which I have. Please send a large s.a.e. with stamps to the value of 34p, and be prepared for a short delay. Thanks so much for the kind messages of sympathy I have received from many of you. I feel that my relationship with Martin still continues strongly but in a new way, and that there has been growth for both of us.

             QFAS is a young organisation which is still evolving. It seems that Friends find their way to us for various reasons but I feel particular concern for those who have had a recent bereavement (maybe in tragic circumstances) and are seeking contact with a loved one or are perhaps feeling that they have had some contact and want to talk about it. I know of several Friends who have found their Meetings unsympathetic when they have tried to discuss such things, or when they have spoken about a visit to a medium or a wish to make such a visit. This heaps distress upon distress.

For such Friends, experiencing a time of great emotion and grief, I am  happy to offer a listening ear. My phone number is on page one. Please do not ring after 10pm.

 I’m still hoping that we can one day publish an anthology about bereavement through accident, suicide or murder – perhaps the most difficult form of loss to come to terms with.  I suggested this in the last newsletter and have received one very moving description of a mother’s experience of losing her son in a car accident. Are there anymore contributions of a similar nature?

            I am hoping to do the publicity mailing to all local Meetings this autumn – delayed from last year. There are still many Friends who do not know of the existence of QFAS.

            Do let me have your contributions for the next Newsletter, due out in December, and your comments on this one.

 Thanks to all those who contributed to this edition.

 

In friendship,